When you right click the toolbar select "Customise" then select the "Commands" tab then select "Macros", no macros appear in the right hand window, but when you go to tools and Macros there are all the macros listed?!?!?!? Also when I add a button to the toolbar using code in the application_startup event it doesnt work. On a network of 130 PC's this is only happening on 2 of them so it is very frustrating! Any help gratefully received. thanks John