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- Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop)
- Author: Budgie
- Date: 01 Sep
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I have just read a few dozen posts from this guy Russ Valentine. I have
never come across anyone whose neck was so far up their arse! Has he
actually ever helped anyone?
Budgie
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
never come across anyone whose neck was so far up their arse! Has he
actually ever helped anyone?
Budgie
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> The point I was making is that it takes a long time for synchronization
> software to get updated to the point it is totally reliable with a new
> Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own synchronization software. For
> that reason, I never attempt to use a new Outlook version as the database
> for a synchronization program until it is at least a year out of release. I
> also don't use a new OS or Office version on my production partition until a
> year more after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need
> won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I have a lot
> of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being an early adopter.
>
> As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is that I
> never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" utilities to
> transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that can transfer Outlook
> data reliably.
>
> No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what isn't. I
> have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm sure they are
> convinced that their products are 100% reliable and compatible as soon as
> they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. I'm only imparting my own
> personal experience and "street smarts."
>
> I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest
> software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly
> together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and
> thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless
> parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much
> higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of
> drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay
> attention.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Hoops" <Hoops@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D5C8B61C-1249-4339-B76E-6A82759D3C26@microsoft.com...
> software to get updated to the point it is totally reliable with a new
> Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own synchronization software. For
> that reason, I never attempt to use a new Outlook version as the database
> for a synchronization program until it is at least a year out of release. I
> also don't use a new OS or Office version on my production partition until a
> year more after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need
> won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I have a lot
> of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being an early adopter.
>
> As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is that I
> never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" utilities to
> transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that can transfer Outlook
> data reliably.
>
> No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what isn't. I
> have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm sure they are
> convinced that their products are 100% reliable and compatible as soon as
> they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. I'm only imparting my own
> personal experience and "street smarts."
>
> I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest
> software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly
> together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and
> thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless
> parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much
> higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of
> drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay
> attention.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Hoops" <Hoops@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D5C8B61C-1249-4339-B76E-6A82759D3C26@microsoft.com...
> > Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook 2003 on
> > XP
> > Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another
> > Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software
> > provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I
> > copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP
> > Notebook
> > - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as
> > instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my
> > contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only
> > software
> > that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This
> > keeps
> > my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have
> > tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking
> > on
> > the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then
> > clicking
> > on the recipient’s name and hitting send.
> >
> > All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do..
> >
> > So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre
> > is
> > crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with
> > you.
> >
> > What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with
> > such
> > a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to
> > fix
> > it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that their
> > products don't work as they sell them to.
> >
> > Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my contacts
> > daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails using my Outlook
> > 2007
> > & contacts.?
> >
> > John
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
>> > XP
> > Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another
> > Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software
> > provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I
> > copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP
> > Notebook
> > - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as
> > instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my
> > contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only
> > software
> > that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This
> > keeps
> > my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have
> > tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking
> > on
> > the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then
> > clicking
> > on the recipient’s name and hitting send.
> >
> > All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do..
> >
> > So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre
> > is
> > crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with
> > you.
> >
> > What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with
> > such
> > a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to
> > fix
> > it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that their
> > products don't work as they sell them to.
> >
> > Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my contacts
> > daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails using my Outlook
> > 2007
> > & contacts.?
> >
> > John
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> >> More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the
> >> data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even
> >> to
> >> start on this one.
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> "Richard Sargeant" <RichardSargeant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:05451E59-1EC2-427D-BD01-0248A3B205E1@microsoft.com...
> >> data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even
> >> to
> >> start on this one.
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> "Richard Sargeant" <RichardSargeant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:05451E59-1EC2-427D-BD01-0248A3B205E1@microsoft.com...
> >> > Russ,
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly
> >> > the
> >> > same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously
> >> > experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded
> >> > from
> >> > Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the
> >> > old
> >> > 2003
> >> > pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed
> >> > the
> >> > old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet,
> >> > Outlook
> >> > loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate
> >> > Outlook.
> >> >
> >> > And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I
> >> > deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and
> >> > filling
> >> > it
> >> > with the contents of my new pst file.
> >> >
> >> > So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or
> >> > synchronising.
> >> >
> >> > RS
> >> > >> >
> >> > Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly
> >> > the
> >> > same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously
> >> > experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded
> >> > from
> >> > Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the
> >> > old
> >> > 2003
> >> > pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed
> >> > the
> >> > old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet,
> >> > Outlook
> >> > loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate
> >> > Outlook.
> >> >
> >> > And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I
> >> > deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and
> >> > filling
> >> > it
> >> > with the contents of my new pst file.
> >> >
> >> > So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or
> >> > synchronising.
> >> >
> >> > RS
| 01 Sep | Re: Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop) | .Budgie |
| 02 Sep |  Re: Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop) | .Brian Tillman [MVP - ... |
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