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Thunderbird DOES suit all my needs, except one thing: it wont sync to my
Windows Mobile PPC phone I have through Verizon. The only thing I need
Thunderbird to do a little more seamlessly is be able to sync my contacts. I
have my email on IMAP through the phone, and through my email client, so I
have no need to sync the email. I don't use the tasks or calender. So, in
essence, the only thing Thunderbird fails at is syncing my contacts.
Mind you, there is a third-party workaround for syncing the contacts through
Thunderbird, but it's complicated and not worth the headache. I'm sure
someone will write a plug-in for Thunderbird that allows such a syncing
between devices.
-Randy
"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
Windows Mobile PPC phone I have through Verizon. The only thing I need
Thunderbird to do a little more seamlessly is be able to sync my contacts. I
have my email on IMAP through the phone, and through my email client, so I
have no need to sync the email. I don't use the tasks or calender. So, in
essence, the only thing Thunderbird fails at is syncing my contacts.
Mind you, there is a third-party workaround for syncing the contacts through
Thunderbird, but it's complicated and not worth the headache. I'm sure
someone will write a plug-in for Thunderbird that allows such a syncing
between devices.
-Randy
"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> Because thunderbird was made for the casual user and outlook was designed as
> the mail client/pim for the corporate world - the original program that
> served as the basis for Outlook connected only to Exchange server. The first
> Outlook had POP3 (and exchange) only - IMAP support came along later. It
> wasn't very good, but they tried their best to adhere to the IMAP RFCs in
> use - which was mark deleted and purge, not move to the deleted folder.
>
> If thunderbird meets your needs, by all means use it. Just because you
> bought the office suite and it includes outlook doesn't mean you have to use
> it - the price of most suites is a good deal for most users - heck, I never
> use PowerPoint but I don't consider it wasted software I had to buy because
> the other apps in the suite were worth the cost to me. It's like buying in
> bulk or shopping at warehouse clubs - I compare the cost of the largest size
> with the cost of smaller sizes and figure how much I need to use of the
> larger package to break even. As long as we use that much I justify the
> wastefulness with the lower cost if we throw out the excess - if we use
> more, I come out ahead.
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
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>
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>
> "Randy" <Randy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:22F8ABA8-CDBC-420B-A47F-03128AD26B7B@microsoft.com...
> the mail client/pim for the corporate world - the original program that
> served as the basis for Outlook connected only to Exchange server. The first
> Outlook had POP3 (and exchange) only - IMAP support came along later. It
> wasn't very good, but they tried their best to adhere to the IMAP RFCs in
> use - which was mark deleted and purge, not move to the deleted folder.
>
> If thunderbird meets your needs, by all means use it. Just because you
> bought the office suite and it includes outlook doesn't mean you have to use
> it - the price of most suites is a good deal for most users - heck, I never
> use PowerPoint but I don't consider it wasted software I had to buy because
> the other apps in the suite were worth the cost to me. It's like buying in
> bulk or shopping at warehouse clubs - I compare the cost of the largest size
> with the cost of smaller sizes and figure how much I need to use of the
> larger package to break even. As long as we use that much I justify the
> wastefulness with the lower cost if we throw out the excess - if we use
> more, I come out ahead.
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
> Outlook Tips by email:
> dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net
>
> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
>
> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
>
> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your
> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
>
>
> "Randy" <Randy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:22F8ABA8-CDBC-420B-A47F-03128AD26B7B@microsoft.com...
> > Well what a pain! I guess those are the answers I was looking for, but
> > Thunderbird still takes the cake on ease of use and features!
> >
> > Not bashing Microsoft, because I couldn't live without my computer, but
> > why
> > is it that free software like Thunderbird has more options (and it's
> > easier
> > to set those options) than software I have to pay for like Outlook?
> >
> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> >
>> > Thunderbird still takes the cake on ease of use and features!
> >
> > Not bashing Microsoft, because I couldn't live without my computer, but
> > why
> > is it that free software like Thunderbird has more options (and it's
> > easier
> > to set those options) than software I have to pay for like Outlook?
> >
> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Current versions of outlook use the purge method, not the deleted items
> >> folder - they are marked deleted and purged when you choose to purge.
> >>
> >> Outlook 2003 does not support selecting a sent folder (2007 does). You
> >> can
> >> configure rules for messages sent using Account A, sent messages go to
> >> folder A then one for Acct B to folder B. Note that if you disable using
> >> the
> >> local sent folder (tools, options, email options) and you lose the
> >> connection to the server, Outlook will not save the sent messages.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> >> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> >> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
> >>
> >> Outlook Tips by email:
> >> dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net
> >>
> >> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> >> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> >>
> >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
> >>
> >> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point
> >> your
> >> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Randy" <Randy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1A9B0C77-1E89-4407-9C36-455BE5F53996@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >> folder - they are marked deleted and purged when you choose to purge.
> >>
> >> Outlook 2003 does not support selecting a sent folder (2007 does). You
> >> can
> >> configure rules for messages sent using Account A, sent messages go to
> >> folder A then one for Acct B to folder B. Note that if you disable using
> >> the
> >> local sent folder (tools, options, email options) and you lose the
> >> connection to the server, Outlook will not save the sent messages.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> >> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> >> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
> >>
> >> Outlook Tips by email:
> >> dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net
> >>
> >> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> >> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> >>
> >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
> >>
> >> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point
> >> your
> >> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Randy" <Randy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1A9B0C77-1E89-4407-9C36-455BE5F53996@microsoft.com...
> >> > I have a few questions for you. I just recently switched from
> >> > Thunderbird
> >> > to
> >> > Outlook/Office 2003 so that I can more easily keep my PPC phone synced
> >> > to
> >> > my
> >> > PC. My questions are regarding IMAP settings.
> >> >
> >> > With Thunderbird, I was able to set the settings so when I delete an
> >> > email,
> >> > it didn't just mark the message deleted and leave it in the inbox, it
> >> > moved
> >> > it to the trash folder on the IMAP server. How do I set this with
> >> > Outlook?
> >> >
> >> > I have 2 email accounts set up in Outlook, bot using different IMAP
> >> > servers
> >> > and settings. How do I make it so when I send an email from a specific
> >> > account, it saves the message in the sent box on the corresponding IMAP
> >> > server, instead of the Sent folder listed under "Personal Folders"?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for your help!
> >> >
> >> > -Randy
> >>> >> > Thunderbird
> >> > to
> >> > Outlook/Office 2003 so that I can more easily keep my PPC phone synced
> >> > to
> >> > my
> >> > PC. My questions are regarding IMAP settings.
> >> >
> >> > With Thunderbird, I was able to set the settings so when I delete an
> >> > email,
> >> > it didn't just mark the message deleted and leave it in the inbox, it
> >> > moved
> >> > it to the trash folder on the IMAP server. How do I set this with
> >> > Outlook?
> >> >
> >> > I have 2 email accounts set up in Outlook, bot using different IMAP
> >> > servers
> >> > and settings. How do I make it so when I send an email from a specific
> >> > account, it saves the message in the sent box on the corresponding IMAP
> >> > server, instead of the Sent folder listed under "Personal Folders"?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for your help!
> >> >
> >> > -Randy
> >>
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