• Subject: Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007
  • Author: ianggjames
  • Date: 01 Sep 2008
  • References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
The categories normally alternate between 2 different sets of 2 categories;
all in one folder. I suspect I can only save one set in the view?

However, another and quite unexpected problem.... the Outlook file that I'm
searching each time is on my wife's PC - accessed via a workgroup over a very
fast wireless connection; so not actually on my own hard drive. Previously
this gave me no problem - the search was virtually instant. Now, it takes
for ever - as in after 10 minutes, only 21 records (out of about 80, in a
Contacts file of about 2,500) have been found. Is this something to do with
the new indexing system in Office 2007? If so, should I switch it off when
accessing a remote PC which is not running 2007 (and, if so, how?).

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

> The categories change each time? If not, you can add them to the custom
> view. (unless you need to search all folders)
>
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> "ianggjames" <ianggjames@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:82F9C4A4-29C2-484D-9976-F21566A0CD4C@microsoft.com...
> > I tried that - but "add criteria" only allows single use of any item, so I
> > can't search on a combination of more than 1 categories. It also has no
> > "NOT" or "CONTAINS" logic , so I can't exclude items I don't want on the
> > basis of text they contain.
> >
> > However, I've realised that I can create a permanent view, for printing
> > purposes, by using Define Views (under View / Current View) and just
> > select
> > that each time, so that the only additional work is in setting up the
> > advanced search each time. As that involves just selecting 2 categories
> > and
> > then excluding names including "template", it takes only about 30
> > seconds -
> > and I can probably live with that. I'd still prefer the Saved Searches
> > facility - I'd love to see it back in SP2!
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Click the Add Criteria button in contacts - it has categories. I don’t
> >> think
> >> Instant search works across all item types - so you'll be limited to all
> >> contacts or all mail with it. Views are also limited to a folder type - a
> >> contact view won't work on mail folders.
> >>
> >> Yes, you can save the results from a view - I don't think you can export
> >> but
> >> you can either print from the view or select all, copy and paste into the
> >> document, if printing doesn't work from instant search.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
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> >>
> >> "ianggjames" <ianggjames@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CC2F28BE-DB56-4C5A-A15E-7BEC4B67A823@microsoft.com...
> >> > Wow - thanks for the detailed reply!
> >> >
> >> > I've tried expanding the search box - but it only seems to cater for
> >> > emails
> >> > - not Contacts - and doesn't include Categories.
> >> >
> >> > Typically, I search on a combination of categories, within a single
> >> > Contact
> >> > folder, and eliminate records containing a word such as "template" in
> >> > the
> >> > Full Name field. I then (and this is the really heavy bit) print out
> >> > the
> >> > results using a pre-formatted report - which is saved along with the
> >> > search
> >> > in the .oss file. To do all of this from scratch every time takes
> >> > about
> >> > 15
> >> > minutes, instead of the 30 seconds or so it took using a saved search.
> >> > I'm
> >> > looking into whether I could search, export the selected data and then
> >> > import
> >> > it into a spreadsheet already set-up with the print layout....
> >> >
> >> > On activations - I did this via email using the free support period
> >> > (which
> >> > has now elapsed) after trying by phone was unsuccessful. I won't
> >> > bother
> >> > trying that again unless I can't resolve this problem in some way,
> >> > particularly as I can't run 2002 and 2007 together and I'd prefer to
> >> > stick
> >> > with the latest, and hence supported, version (particularly having paid
> >> > for
> >> > it!)
> >> >
> >> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Are you entering the keywords as 'keyword1, keyword2' ? Expanding the
> >> >> instant search box to show fields? Instant search is almost as
> >> >> powerful
> >> >> as
> >> >> Advanced find (it doesn't do all fields) and much better than the old
> >> >> Find.
> >> >> The big draw for Advanced find is that it’s a separate window, so you
> >> >> can
> >> >> keep working in outlook while it searches, run multiple searches at
> >> >> once,
> >> >> and keep the results up for hours. (Instant search is almost instant,
> >> >> as
> >> >> are
> >> >> custom views.)
> >> >>
> >> >> Are the searches across the entire mailbox or just a single folder?
> >> >> Custom
> >> >> views work great to apply a 'search' quickly (they use the same filter
> >> >> dialog as advanced find). Automatic formatting uses the same filter
> >> >> dialog
> >> >> too, if you need to apply another filter to results (ie, show all mail
> >> >> from
> >> >> domain.com, directly to me in blue, where I'm cc'd in green and
> >> >> everything
> >> >> else is bcc'd or newsletters).
> >> >>
> >> >> While you can apply a custom view to multiple folders, it's not as
> >> >> useful
> >> >> as
> >> >> a search tool, since its separate folders. On the other hand, using
> >> >> too
> >> >> many
> >> >> folders within outlook makes it much harder to find anything - its
> >> >> much
> >> >> faster to apply a view to one folder than it is to use advanced find
> >> >> to
> >> >> search 30 folders.
> >> >>
> >> >> No on two versions of outlook. You could do it with a VM, but that
> >> >> works
> >> >> best with Exchange accts (since you can't access one pst with two
> >> >> outlooks -
> >> >> you'd need to close one first).
> >> >>
> >> >> As for the activations - did you try calling in to activate and they
> >> >> told
> >> >> you absolutely no more? Unless the activations were very frequent, at
> >> >> most
> >> >> you need to call in - my calls for excessive activations (following
> >> >> reformats) were all automated.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> >> >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> >> >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
> >> >>
> >> >> Outlook Tips by email:
> >> >> dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "ianggjames" <ianggjames@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:717D4580-1C10-4D2C-A7B7-03AF13FB1D82@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > I personally don't agree that "improvements in outlook 2007 outweigh
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > loss
> >> >> > of OSS files". I only bought it because, having had 2 laptops in a
> >> >> > row
> >> >> > stolen, I'd exceeded allowable activations. Instant search,
> >> >> > frankly,
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > useless to me, because it doesn't permit searching using a
> >> >> > combination
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > categories and keywords and doesn't allow me to exclude records I
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > want.
> >> >> > You're right about O2003 - my mis-type - it does work with O2002
> >> >> > though
> >> >> > (but
> >> >> > not sure if I'll be able to reinstall that on my desktop PC because
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > number of previous activations). Advanced Search still works, of
> >> >> > course -
> >> >> > it's just so annoying to have to reinput the search criteria every
> >> >> > time
> >> >> > and I
> >> >> > still think it's sad that the really useful facility to save
> >> >> > searches
> >> >> > has
> >> >> > been arbitrarily removed. Do you know if I can have 2 versions of
> >> >> > Outlook
> >> >> > running on the same PC? (if so, I could possibly use 2002 to open
> >> >> > .oss
> >> >> > files
> >> >> > when I need to run and print my saved searches). As I said before -
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > exactly progress!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Um. Unless you stick with older builds, it won't work with Outlook
> >> >> >> 2003
> >> >> >> either. One of the SP's blocks it for security reasons. Frankly,
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> improvements in outlook 2007 outweigh the loss of OSS files-
> >> >> >> especially
> >> >> >> since they are only 'lost' for non-mail folders. Plus, instant
> >> >> >> search
> >> >> >> makes
> >> >> >> up for some of it - the last 10 instant searches are saved, so they
> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> easy
> >> >> >> to select.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> >> >> >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> >> >> >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Outlook Tips by email:
> >> >> >> dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> >> >> >> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or
> >> >> >> point
> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "ianggjames" <ianggjames@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:46B731A5-DDBF-4DED-A461-8A27CCEC5CCA@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Unbelievable! I guess that's what Microsoft calls "progress".
> >> >> >> > Back
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > Outlook 2003 and £80 wasted.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> It was removed from outlook 2007 - the open menu is for mailbox
> >> >> >> >> folders,
> >> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> >> oss files. You can make search folders for mail - unfortunately
> >> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> can't
> >> >> >> >> save searches for other item types.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> >> >> >> >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> >> >> >> >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Outlook Tips by email:
> >> >> >> >> dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> >> >> >> >> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> >> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or
> >> >> >> >> point
> >> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> >> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "ianggjames" <ianggjames@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:2A79FB66-2DDB-4C7B-AD0D-DD7735B330DC@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> > I've just upgraded to Outlook 2007 (I know, silly me!) and it
> >> >> >> >> > won't
> >> >> >> >> > open,
> >> >> >> >> > save or even recognize Office Saved Search (.oss) files. The
> >> >> >> >> > Advanced
> >> >> >> >> > Find
> >> >> >> >> > function (which is what uses these files) exists in O-2007 and
> >> >> >> >> > contains
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > Open and Save options in the drop-down menu (so presumably the
> >> >> >> >> > functionality
> >> >> >> >> > is there somewhere?), but they are greyed out so they can't be
> >> >> >> >> > used.
26 Aug 2008.oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.ianggjames
26 Aug 2008\ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.Diane Poremsky [MVP]
27 Aug 2008   \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.ianggjames
27 Aug 2008      \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.Diane Poremsky [MVP]
28 Aug 2008         \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.ianggjames
28 Aug 2008            \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.Diane Poremsky [MVP]
28 Aug 2008               \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.ianggjames
28 Aug 2008                  \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.Diane Poremsky [MVP]
29 Aug 2008                     \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.ianggjames
29 Aug 2008                        \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.Diane Poremsky [MVP]
01 Sep 2008                           \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.ianggjames
02 Sep 2008                              \ Re: .oss files not recognized by Outlook 2007.Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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